Joshua Turner (b Huddersfield, Yorkshire 1839, m Elizabeth
Stephenson
1862 Newcastle-on-Tyne, d 1921 Melbourne)
m
Jane
Batty(nee Brackson) 1903 St Kilda)
Elizabeth Stephenson (b Newcastle-on-Tyne 1838, d
1899
Melbourne)
Ann Elizabeth (Hannah?) Turner (b 1864, d aft
1920) Mary Louisa
Turner
(b abt 1868 Newcastle-on-Tyne, m
John Thompson
1887 Newcastle-on-Tyne, d 1901 N Fitzroy Vic) Norman
Thompson (b 1888
Newcastle-on-Tyne, m Winifred
Emma Farr 1918 Northcote Vic, d
1932 Thornbury Vic)
Joshua Turner (b abt 1868, d 1871 South Sheilds)
Edward Turner (b 1873, m Hannah Ann McBride 1905 Melbourne, d
1961 Melbourne)
John Willie Turner (b 1875, m Grace Mabel Meldrum 1905 Fitzroy
Melbourne, d 1964 Regent Melbourne)
Joshua Turner's application for
Probate in 1921 by Edward
Stephenson Turner lists Surviving Children
: Edward Stephenson Turner, John Willie Turner and Hannah Louise
Miller His grandchildren, being the
children of his daughter Polly Thompson, Fred Thompson
and Norman Thompson who are his only surviving next
of kin
Joshua and Elizabeth's Story
Joshua was born in Huddersfield, Yorkshire in
1839.
Huddersfield is a long way from
Newcastle-on-Tyne, but the Turner family moved between 1851 and 1861
to
Elswick, Newcastle-on-Tyne.
Elizabeth
was born in Newcastle-on-Tyne in 1838. Elizabeth's family were long
time
Newcastle-on-Tyne residents. Her parents were born there in 1807.
Joshua and Elizabeth were married in 1862. and
had
five children.
Joshua followed his father's profession of Whitesmith*. In 1881
Elizabeth was an Upholstress and eldest daughter Hannah was a
dressmaker. Joshua came to Melbourne with son Edward on the Port
Caroline in 1890. I cannot find a convincing record for Elizabeth
arriving in Australia., but she was still in Newcastle on Tyne in
the
1891 Censuc
Joshua and Elizabeth were
joined
in 1893 by children Mary and John. Mary
came with John and her two young children after her husband died. We
have no
idea why at age 52 Joshua and Elizabeth left children and
grandchildren
and migrated to
Australia. Ann was living at home as a dressmakeri 1881. Ann and
Edward were still alive in 1899. Joshua and Elizabeth lived in the
same
suburb (North
Fitzroy) as daughter Mary. Joshua made much of
the iron lace found on houses and verandahs in Fitzroy and Northcote
(suburbs of Melbourne) (Gwen Smalley).
Joshua remarried in 1903 to a widow Jane
Batty. When she married, Jane had 8 children, 5 still living
They
took over the care of Mary's children Norman and Frederick
after their mother died. Joshua died in
1924. *A whitesmith is a
person who works with white or
light-colored metal (such as tin) and does finish work, such as
filing
and/or polishing, on iron to remove black oxides. Whitesmith can
also
refer to the person who polishes or finishes the metal rather than
forging it. - Wikipedia
Joshua Turner and second wife Jane
Starting Information
Death Elizabeth Turner, 15
apr
1899, N Fitzroy Vic, aged 61 years, Asthma, in Vic 7 years,
Married aged 24 to Joshua Turner, Children: Anne Elizabeth 37,
Mary
Louisa 34, Joshua (dec), Edward 26, John Willie 24
Father Edward Stephenson, furniture maker, mother Anna Death Mary Louisa Thompson 5
Oct 1901, N Fitzroy Vic, of Phthisis exhaustion
Father Joshua Turner blacksmith, Mother Elizabeth Stephenson, born
near
Newcastle on Tyne, 7 years in Vic
Married Newcastle on Tyne, at age 22 to John Thompson, children
Norman, Frederick Marriage Joshua Turner22 July 1903 St Kilda, age
64, of Huddersfield, Yorkshire and Jane Bathy
Joshua: Blacksmith, Riley St Fitzroy , Parents Joshua Turner and
Mary
Inman (Joshua 3 living 2 dead children)
Death Joshua Turner 23 Jun 1921 Melbourne, aged 84 ,
blacksmith,
of senility
Father Joshua Turner, mother unknown, Born Huddersfield, Lived 29
years
in Vic,
Married Newcastle on Tyne aged 21 years, to Elizabeth Stephenson,
Children: Joshua (dec), Hannah 57, Louisa (dec), Edward 49,
John
William 46
1841 Census
Dock St,
Huddersfield
All
born Same County
Joshua TURNER
35
Whitesmith (b 1805)
Mary
TURNER
30
(b 1810)
Joseph TURNER
8
(b
1832)
Louisa TURNER
6
(b 1834)
Frances TURNER (F)
4
(b
1836) Joshua
TURNER
2
(b
1838)
Alfred
TURNER
3
months
(b
1841)
For Elizabeth Stephenson, see her parent's page.
1851 Census
132 Zetland St,
Huddersfield
Born
Joshua
TURNER
Head
M
45
Whitesmith Huddersfield (b abt
1805)
Mary
TURNER
Wife
M
42
Alverthorpe, YKS (b abt 1808)
Joe William
TURNER
U
18
Huddersfield
(b 1832)
Louisa(spelt Louezer!)
TURNER
U
16
Huddersfield
(b 1834) Joshua
TURNER
U
12
Huddersfield
(b 1838)
Alfred
TURNER
U
10
Huddersfield
(b 1840)
Luke
TURNER
U
8
Huddersfield
(b 1842)
Henry
TURNER
U
1
Huddersfield
(b 1849)
Joseph
FELIX
39
Equ??????
France
Jeniver(?)
FELIX
30
France
Missing, present 1841 Frances TURNER
(F)
Huddersfield
Alverthorpe, appears to be a suburb of Wakefield, about twelve miles
E
of Huddersfield
1861 Census
11 Myrtle Terr, Elswick, Newcastle on Tyne,
Westgate
Born
Mary TURNER
Head Mar
52
YKS (b 1808) Joshua TURNER
Son
22
Whitesmith
Huddersfield,
YKS (b 1838)
Luke TURNER
Son
17
Whitesmith
Huddersfield, YKS (b 1843)
Henry TURNER
Son
4
Tailer
Huddersfield,
YKS (b 1856)
William H TURNER
Son
8
mon
Huddersfield,
YKS (b 1860)
Note Mary is not described as Widow, and her husband is back in the
71
census.
Yes Henry does seem to be described as "Tailer" in the census
1871 Census
Could not find Joshua(Jnr) and Elizabeth
1881 Census
82 Blenheim St, Westgate, Newcastle, Parish of St
John
Born Joshua Turner
Head
M 42
Whitesmith Huddersfield,
Yorkshire (abt 1838) Elizabeth Turner Wife
M
42
Upholsteress Newcastle
(abt
1838)
Hannah E Turner Dau
U 18
Dressmaker Newcastle
(abt 1862)
Mary L Turner
Dau U
15
Newcastle
(abt 1865)
Edward S Turner Son
U
8
Newcastle
(abt 1872)
John W Turner
Son U
5
Newcastle (abt 1875)
1891 Census
Westgate Rd, Newcastle on Tyne Elizabeth
Turner 53
Head
Newcastle,
Northumberland John W
Turner
15 Son Solicitors
Clerk
Jarrow, Durham, England Margaret Scott Elizabeth Little
Boarders, Domestic Servants
Acknowledgements
Thanks to Glenis Crocker for all the stuff in her research notes.
Thanks to Gwenda Booth for her
information on John Willie Turner and
the Turners generally
Research Notes
Genes Reunited checked for Joshua and Elizabeth
LDS checked
Melb directories. Did parents and daughter live together?
Shipping records: get fiche 511 p11 and 525 p1, Still to find
Elizabeth. NSW?e
google no
Interestingly Batty is a name that crops up in the Baptism and
marriage
records in Huddersfield, Jane came from Laycock, about twenty
miles N of Huddersfield. Batty was her married name though she was
born
Brackson - but LDS and Ancestry both seem to be almost completely
Brackson free zones/
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